Awakening Streams: The One River Zen Podcast

David Hume’s Zen: Escaping the "Faint Copies" of Reality | Mumonkan Case 19

Episode Summary

Are you living in reality, or just a "faint copy" of it? In this episode, Sensei Michael Brunner (Sōen) explores a surprising convergence between 18th-century Western philosophy and the heart of Zen. Drawing on David Hume’s radical empiricism, Sensei Michael identifies a "glitch" in our human operating system: the habit of trading vivid, forceful experience for the stale narratives of the discursive mind. Using the vivid metaphor of a "dog running in its sleep," this teisho examines why we often find ourselves shadowboxing with memories and expectations rather than meeting life directly. By recalibrating our practice through the Four Reliances and the classic Mumonkan Case 19 (Ordinary Mind Is the Way), we learn to drop the conceptual maps we've mistaken for the moon and step into the boundless field of wonder that is already here. Key Themes: David Hume in the Zendo: Understanding "Impressions" vs. "Ideas." The Four Reliances: Calibrating your spiritual compass. Ordinary Mind is the Way: Why "knowing" is a delusion and "not-knowing" is intimacy. The Shadowboxing Mind: How to wake up from the "faint copies" of our lives. About One River Zen: Located in Ottawa, Illinois, One River Zen is a center for rigorous Dharma study and direct realization. Led by Sensei Michael Brunner, our community bridges ancient Soto Zen lineage with contemporary intellectual inquiry, challenging practitioners to find the "Eternal Spring" in every moment. Learn more and join our practice at oneriverzen.org.

Episode Notes

Episode Notes: David Hume’s Zen

Series: Awakening Streams

Teacher: Sensei Michael Brunner (Sōen)

Location: One River Zen | Ottawa, Illinois

Title: Escaping the "Faint Copies" of Reality | Mumonkan Case 19

Episode Summary

Are we living in the vivid, forceful reality of the present, or are we stuck in the "faint copies" of our own minds? In this episode, Sensei Michael Brunner explores the intersection of 18th-century Western Enlightenment philosophy and 13th-century Japanese Zen.

Drawing on the radical empiricism of David Hume, Sensei Brunner identifies a "glitch" in the human operating system: our habit of prioritizing conceptual shorthand (ideas) over direct, raw experience (impressions). By weaving Hume’s skepticism with the Four Reliances and the classic Mumonkan Case 19, this teisho offers a diagnostic tool for the "shadowboxing" of the discursive mind and an invitation to return to the Ordinary Mind.

Key Highlights

The "Glitch" in the Operating System: How David Hume’s distinction between impressions (vivid reality) and ideas (faint memories) mirrors the Zen struggle on the cushion.

The Four Reliances: A calibration of the spiritual compass. Why we must rely on meaning over words and the definitive over the provisional.

Shadowboxing with the Mind: Understanding why trying to "think" our way to enlightenment is like a dog running in its sleep—busy, but ultimately going nowhere.

Ordinary Mind is the Way: A deep dive into Mumonkan Case 19. Why Nansen tells Joshu that "knowing is delusion" and how "not-knowing" leads to intimacy with reality.

The Scaffold vs. The Reality: Moving beyond the "Buddhistic notions" and dusty tomes to find the blooming, eternal spring of direct experience.

Featured Quote

"We listen to the inner critic and miss the vivid, forceful reality that is always present right here and right now. We turn practice into a laboratory of faint copies, compressing raw experience into stale narratives: good sit, bad sit, good practitioner, bad practitioner. Hume warns us that these are just shadows."

Scriptural & Philosophical References

David Hume: A Treatise of Human Nature (Impressions vs. Ideas)

The Four Reliances: (Catuḥpratisaraṇa)

The Mumonkan (The Gateless Barrier): Case 19, "Ordinary Mind is the Way"

Dōgen Zenji: Contemporary studies of the Shōbōgenzō

About One River Zen

One River Zen is a center for rigorous Dharma study and direct realization located in Ottawa, Illinois. Under the guidance of Sensei Michael Brunner, the Sangha bridges ancient Soto Zen lineage with contemporary intellectual inquiry. Our mission is to provide a "scaffold" for practitioners to reach the direct reality of Buddha-nature in the modern world.

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Keywords: Zen Philosophy, David Hume, Mumonkan Case 19, Ordinary Mind, Michael Brunner, One River Zen, Soto Zen, Mindfulness, Radical Empiricism, Ottawa Illinois Zen